In this month’s Leadership Interview, CCA past president, Michael Clark, sits down with Gloria Gilliam, VP & Reserving Actuary at Chubb and current president of the International Association of Black Actuaries (IABA) and Jeff Brown, executive director of IABA. 

  

During this dynamic conversation they discuss topics such as the idea that actuarial careers rarely follow a straight line—and leadership doesn’t happen by accident. We explore the power of community, representation, and intentional development through the work of IABA. 

  

Guests share personal reflections on career pivots, exam challenges, volunteering, and the skills it truly takes to move into leadership. From the impact of early exposure and mentorship to the importance of visibility and self-advocacy, this episode offers thoughtful insights for actuaries at every stage who are looking to grow, lead, and strengthen the profession.